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YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (3rd Jul 08 at 8:05pm UTC)

Quote from BBC News:

Google must divulge the viewing habits of every user who has ever watched any video on YouTube, a US court has ruled.
The ruling comes as part of Google's legal battle with Viacom over allegations of copyright infringement.

What are your thoughts on this?

Personally I believe it should not be allowed. Users should be allowed to view what they want without having others know about it. In my eyes it's like someone sitting on your couch next to you writing down every show you watch and handing it over to a group of strangers. {Unsure}

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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (3rd Jul 08 at 10:15pm UTC)
I think it's a bit creepy, and it's just wrong. If it does happen, I'll probably stay off of YouTube =/
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (3rd Jul 08 at 11:45pm UTC)
So uh.... Whats going on? So what im reading is you have to tell people what you watch in order for you to watch the videos? SO lets say, I upload a video, that i created as a fan made for Final Fantasy, and it has a song on it. and I give credit to the song creator. What will happen to me?
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (4th Jul 08 at 12:03am UTC)
Posted By Nick on 3rd Jul 08 at 11:45pm So uh.... Whats going on? So what im reading is you have to tell people what you watch in order for you to watch the videos? SO lets say, I upload a video, that i created as a fan made for Final Fantasy, and it has a song on it. and I give credit to the song creator. What will happen to me? It's not that - it's that there's a lawsuit brought against Google by Viacom, and Viacom want the logs of all the "offending" videos given over to them.
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (4th Jul 08 at 12:06am UTC)
oh ok. I read the whole story, they say they are going to take out the IP addresses, as many know IP addresses are revealing almost everything about that person, unless the person uses dynamic, or proxy.
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (4th Jul 08 at 12:08am UTC)
Posted By Graham on 4th Jul 08 at 12:03am Posted By Nick on 3rd Jul 08 at 11:45pm So uh.... Whats going on? So what im reading is you have to tell people what you watch in order for you to watch the videos? SO lets say, I upload a video, that i created as a fan made for Final Fantasy, and it has a song on it. and I give credit to the song creator. What will happen to me? It's not that - it's that there's a lawsuit brought against Google by Viacom, and Viacom want the logs of all the "offending" videos given over to them. Not just the offending videos; every view of every video ever recorded by the system; even those deleted.
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (4th Jul 08 at 12:14am UTC)
So like people recording tv shows, or even movies, and uploaded it to YT, the people who did that will get in trouble? Like people recording movies in the Theaters then uploading them to YT.
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (4th Jul 08 at 12:26am UTC)
I'm not sure; the article doesn't go into much detail about that...I'll post updated links as they come out though.
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (4th Jul 08 at 12:55am UTC)
Alright cool, thanks.
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (10th Jul 08 at 12:24am UTC)
Posted By Nick on 4th Jul 08 at 12:06am oh ok. I read the whole story, they say they are going to take out the IP addresses, as many know IP addresses are revealing almost everything about that person, unless the person uses dynamic, or proxy. I wouldn't say thats true, my if you try to do geo location on my IP i show up somewhere 500 miles away. I think this whole thing is ridiculous and people have whatever right they want to look at videos. So what if youtube has copyright issues why don't they attack the millions of songs downloaded, or the millions of dollars of software being stolen all the time.
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (10th Jul 08 at 2:38am UTC)
Posted By Dylan on 10th Jul 08 at 12:24am Posted By Nick on 4th Jul 08 at 12:06am oh ok. I read the whole story, they say they are going to take out the IP addresses, as many know IP addresses are revealing almost everything about that person, unless the person uses dynamic, or proxy. I wouldn't say thats true, my if you try to do geo location on my IP i show up somewhere 500 miles away. I think this whole thing is ridiculous and people have whatever right they want to look at videos. So what if youtube has copyright issues why don't they attack the millions of songs downloaded, or the millions of dollars of software being stolen all the time. Because generally, programs/sites offering these either don't personally host the files and/or don't store user information for every view of every video.
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (10th Jul 08 at 3:46am UTC)
Yeah My IP Address says im in another city some 50 miles away north. and at Marc, that's true, Like VeohTV, or Watch-movies, are all legal, they just use Pirated sites. and for songs, LimeWire, and BearShare are all legal as well. because its P2P file sharing. and sometimes you can be at a great risk of virus's when you Download from any pirated places.
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (10th Jul 08 at 6:10am UTC)
....i wish i could say exaclty how i felt about this matter, but the words I would use could not be used.... and its not because i do anythihn wrong on the internet, its that its "BS" and they have no right doing it! That is a major evasion of ones privacy...
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (10th Jul 08 at 7:55am UTC)
Depends how you look at it. I don't see the problem about them logging IPs. If you aren't doing anything wrong then what are you concerned about? You aren't going to caught for something you did, and if they try to pin something to you, they can't exactly prove it if you didn't do it can they. People on YouTube and the Police aren't going to stalk you either, if they do, then either shoot them in self defence or take them to court and get them jailed... I don't have an issue with it, invasion of privacy is BS imo, what do you have that you want to keep private? People who care about privacy invasion are those that are scared they are going to get caught for illegal things IMO.
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Re: YouTube Users' Privacy Threatened (10th Jul 08 at 8:02am UTC)
Posted By Sven on 10th Jul 08 at 7:55am Depends how you look at it. I don't see the problem about them logging IPs. If you aren't doing anything wrong then what are you concerned about? You aren't going to caught for something you did, and if they try to pin something to you, they can't exactly prove it if you didn't do it can they. People on YouTube and the Police aren't going to stalk you either, if they do, then either shoot them in self defence or take them to court and get them jailed... I don't have an issue with it, invasion of privacy is BS imo, what do you have that you want to keep private? People who care about privacy invasion are those that are scared they are going to get caught for illegal things IMO. I think it's an invasion of privacy and I never watch illegal videos on Youtube. It's the principle behind what's happening that bugs me, not the actual thing itself. Governments spend millions a year protecting privacy rights and giving people the choice to share what they do. On top of that, Google has a lawyer-written privacy policy stating that your actions will not be released to any third-party. Now the government is going against everything they worked for, and wrongfully breaking Youtube's users' trust. It has nothing to do with whether or not you were viewing videos that were illegal, because even if you had been you could not get in trouble because Youtube is supposed to be regulating the legality of the videos it hosts, not the users. Picture YouTube as the city you live in: You go downstairs, get some breakfast, read the news. [Equivalent of reading the updates on Youtube's home page] Next you go out to your car, and begin driving to the store. [Could be interpreted as the search feature] You get to the store, make your purchases, then continue driving. [Viewing a video, then searching for another one] You get to another store, and buy some more things. You go to a few other stores, and get some other necessities. After a day's worth of shopping, you feel tired so head back home. Now, were you doing anything wrong or illegal at the stores? No, but you still wouldn't want someone following you, keeping track of what stores you went to & the route you took to get there, etc. and then handing the information over to someone else.
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