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pmvForum | | Debate: Sexuality (13th Mar 08 at 10:31pm UTC) | | I know this is a strong topic that most people have, some strong feelings on.
When I made the poll asking people's sexualities, many expressed their views on homosexuality etc.. I personally think that it would be best if people could discuss their views on sexuality.
Just a few things:
Don't use bad words
Don't spam...
Back up your arguments.
For me, I don't see any harm in people being gay or bisexual or lesbian. I know I'm bi, but why would it affect people? People will most probably use the 'religion' argument. To be honest though, the bible may state that it isn't 'right' but times change, it might not have been accepted then, but the bible is outdated. Right?
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pm | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (13th Mar 08 at 10:54pm UTC) | | I'm fine with it. I'm too liberal to not be.  | |
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pmmsn | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (13th Mar 08 at 10:57pm UTC) | | I will try to keep my words PG-13
It's not that I don't like gay pple, because I do have some gay friends, to me it's wrong for guys to "like" eachother. I don't mind lesbians though, I guess just because girls doing sexual things to eachother doesn't seem wrong, it seems natural. Bi pple I don't mind either, but yet I do mind, because of the male on male concept. I know that everyone has a right to choose there sexuality and to live there life that way. I bet some pple are thinking i'm racist towards gay guys, and I admit, I am, but I do not say anything bad about them because as mentioned I do have some gay friends that are veyr nice pple.
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pmwww | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (13th Mar 08 at 11:38pm UTC) | | Wrighty, you're bi?!?  *Runs*
Kidding, I still  you.  
Personally, I am a Christian, so your "bible is outdated" statement does offend me; but that aside, the bible also states to treat your neighbour with respect. In my mind, the respect rule is more important than the heterosexuality rule.
Although I do believe in what my religion says, and think that homosexuality/bisexuality is wrong, I do not hold anything against anybody who follows that path. There's nothing different about them, except who they like.
I have many bi/gay friends, and they're all great people. Quite a few of my ex-girlfriends are bisexual. So while I may think that the lifestyle choice is wrong, that does not change my view on the people who choose that lifestyle. Personally I'm a strong believer in self expression, so of course I do not put any judgement on people for their sexuality. | |
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pm | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (13th Mar 08 at 11:43pm UTC) | | I will try to keep my words PG-13
It's not that I don't like gay pple, because I do have some gay friends, to me it's wrong for guys to "like" eachother. I don't mind lesbians though, I guess just because girls doing sexual things to eachother doesn't seem wrong, it seems natural. Bi pple I don't mind either, but yet I do mind, because of the male on male concept. I know that everyone has a right to choose there sexuality and to live there life that way. I bet some pple are thinking i'm racist towards gay guys, and I admit, I am, but I do not say anything bad about them because as mentioned I do have some gay friends that are veyr nice pple.
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You can't be "racist" towards homosexuals, because they aren't a race. It's called being homophobic. | |
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pmwwwskypeaimgtalk | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (14th Mar 08 at 1:33am UTC) | | Personally, I am a Christian, so your "bible is outdated" statement does offend me; but that aside, the bible also states to treat your neighbour with respect. In my mind, the respect rule is more important than the heterosexuality rule.
I teach at the Bible School we have here over the summer, am a confirmed Catholic, and only applied (accidentally, I swear) to Catholic colleges. Jesuit, to be precise. My letter to the Bishop I had to write for Confirmation was read aloud at the ceremony, and I carried the cross for the ceremony.
So people don't quite get how I can justify being gay.
I guess there's a crucial distinction I make: the religion and the Church. They aren't the same, in my eyes. The religion preaches love, tolerance, goodwill towards man, and basically a strong moral fiber. The Church tacks things on to this, like the Bible, customs, practices, and rules.
I believe in the religion (the morals) not the Church (the rules that don't derive from the morals).
The whole 'God' bit I'm still undecided on.
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pmwwwmsngtalk | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (14th Mar 08 at 1:42am UTC) | | I'm very Christian, and I believe that man was made to be with woman. I agree with Marc about the be kind to your neighbor a lot on this.
I don't really enjoy thinking about being in the P.E. locker rooms and knowing there is a guy that is watching us change and all, because that's just kind of awkward to me. Sorry if this portion has offended any of you.
I don't have any male gay friends, but that is because I don't know of any that are at my school except in the 7th grade but I don't talk to any of them. As for Bi/Lesbian girls I know plenty and some I'm quite good friends with. | |
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pmwww | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (14th Mar 08 at 1:44am UTC) | | I don't really enjoy thinking about being in the P.E. locker rooms and knowing there is a guy that is watching us change and all, because that's just kind of awkward to me. Sorry if this portion has offended any of you.
Just because someone is bisexual/gay doesn't mean he's attracted to every guy he sees; same with you toward girls.  | |
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pmwwwskypeaimgtalk | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (14th Mar 08 at 4:21am UTC) | | For the record, 99% of the time, we don't want to see it as much as you don't want us to see it. ^_^
Well, in my case, at least.
I've learned how to put the blinders on effectively, because... well, there are some things I really don't want to see.
Though, it is nice, everyone does clear a path for me whenever I need to walk somewhere in the locker room. ^_^
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pm | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (14th Mar 08 at 12:36pm UTC) | | I don't really enjoy thinking about being in the P.E. locker rooms and knowing there is a guy that is watching us change and all, because that's just kind of awkward to me. Sorry if this portion has offended any of you. Just because someone is bisexual/gay doesn't mean he's attracted to every guy he sees; same with you toward girls.
If I was in a change room full of girls, I know I'd stare at each and every girl. | |
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pmwwwmsngtalk | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (14th Mar 08 at 11:53pm UTC) | | I don't really enjoy thinking about being in the P.E. locker rooms and knowing there is a guy that is watching us change and all, because that's just kind of awkward to me. Sorry if this portion has offended any of you. Just because someone is bisexual/gay doesn't mean he's attracted to every guy he sees; same with you toward girls. If I was in a change room full of girls, I know I'd stare at each and every girl.
I was going to mention that. I really wouldn't care unless it was a girl of a young age. | |
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pmwww | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (15th Mar 08 at 12:19am UTC) | | Oh great, seems as though we've lured the RealJock ads over again.  | |
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pmwww | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (15th Mar 08 at 1:25am UTC) | | I will try to keep my words PG-13
It's not that I don't like gay people, because I do have some gay friends, to me it's wrong for guys to "like" each other. I don't mind lesbians though, I guess just because girls doing sexual things to each other doesn't seem wrong, it seems natural. Bi pple I don't mind either, but yet I do mind, because of the male on male concept. I know that everyone has a right to choose there sexuality and to live there life that way. I bet some people are thinking I'm racist towards gay guys, and I admit, I am, but I do not say anything bad about them because as mentioned I do have some gay friends that are very nice people.
If i've upset anyone, please pm me and tell me.
Racist, no. Biased yes. How is it alright for woman but not men? It's just the same for two men as it is for woman.
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pmwww | | Re: Debate: Sexuality (15th Mar 08 at 1:28am UTC) | | I have to agree with Bones on what Grievous said. You saying that it's okay for woman but not men seems more to me as a "fetish" thing rather than any actual logical reason.
*Tries hardest to word it in a PG-13 way* | |
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