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Confirmation Code - Posted By gray929 (gray929) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:30am
For some reason it isn't working now. Has anyone had trouble with it? I am trying to join my own forum to test something and I've failed it 10 times. Its all capitals right?

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Michael (wrighty) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:30am
Link to forum?

I'll give it a shot to test...

and I don't think it IS all capitals.

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Reverse Blade (zohvi) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:32am
Sometimes the letters/numbers aren't what they appear to be, had that problem with joining here. Couldn't read what some of the things were.

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Dreg[Bot] (dregondrahl) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:33am
Yes its true, thier is abit of a problem with that, i thought it was just me. I think its only for FireFox tho.

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By gray929 (gray929) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:35am
Try this one.
http://www.sports.virtualforums.co.uk

If it isn't all caps, Id make it more distinct. I have no way to tell which are caps or not. And a complaint xD I don't know how this works, if you made it or its a company but if you made them then,

I don't know what the 2nd letter is. I think its an L but one could think its a 4.
Image


Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Michael (wrighty) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:35am
Personally I think a new system should be used..

like a simple sum:

2 + 2 = ?
1 + 4 = ?

they answer the question and hey presto they're not a bot! {Wink}


Ok 8 attempts and none of them were right... I think that's a bug! {Tongue Out} (on that forum anyway!)

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Reverse Blade (zohvi) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:36am
 
Personally I think a new system should be used..

like a simple sum:

2 + 2 = ?
1 + 4 = ?

they answer the question and hey presto they're not a bot! {Wink}


That would make it easier

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By gray929 (gray929) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:38am
 
 
Personally I think a new system should be used..

like a simple sum:

2 + 2 = ?
1 + 4 = ?

they answer the question and hey presto they're not a bot! {Wink}


That would make it easier


Love that wrighty. Bots are smart, but not that smart!

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Marc (cr0w) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:40am
 
 
Personally I think a new system should be used..

like a simple sum:

2 + 2 = ?
1 + 4 = ?

they answer the question and hey presto they're not a bot! {Wink}


That would make it easier


If bots have the capability to read letters that are each spaced differently, have lines through them, are tilted, and are a tad blurred, do you think they wouldn't be able to grab two numbers out of the source code and read them? {Wink}

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Michael (wrighty) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:41am
No, because they aren't made to do that...

It would most definitely confuzzle them! {Cheesy}

And so long as they weren't given an id like: 'confirm_sum' {Tongue Out}

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Marc (cr0w) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:42am
 
No, because they aren't made to do that...

It would most definitely confuzzle them! {Cheesy}

And so long as they weren't given an id like: 'confirm_sum' {Tongue Out}


Bots aren't as simple as you think Wrighty; if they were we wouldn't need confirmation codes that are distorted, misaligned, tilted, and blurred. {Wink}

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By gray929 (gray929) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:43am
What about an audio one then? Bots dont have ears!

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Marc (cr0w) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:44am
 
What about an audio one then? Bots dont have ears!


Dial-up users won't like that at all; and what if someone is on a public computer with no speakers? Some of my friends only have internet access at the public library, or at school.

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By gray929 (gray929) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:54am
K. I mean, I am fine with letters, just make it more distinct. Thats all.

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Reverse Blade (zohvi) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:54am
have a color and make the user type what color it is {Tongue Out}

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Michael (wrighty) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:56am
or an image of a shape! {Cheesy} and people have 3 options, they have to select the correct one! {Cheesy}

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Reverse Blade (zohvi) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:58am
exactly, I don't think a bot would be able to pick the right one unless you use alts with the name of the shapes {Tongue Out}

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Michael (wrighty) on 2nd Jan 08 at 1:59am
or in the actual image name.

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Marc (cr0w) on 2nd Jan 08 at 2:08am
 
exactly, I don't think a bot would be able to pick the right one unless you use alts with the name of the shapes {Tongue Out}


Again, not hard for a bot to figure out. {Wink}

For fairly small sites, these things would be alright, because bot writers wouldn't bother changing their bots around for it; but for a forum system, bot writers would want to get through, so that they could spam up the site, lowering it's reputation. It would take a bot writer probably 5 minutes to make the bot read the colour. {Wink}

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By gray929 (gray929) on 2nd Jan 08 at 2:11am
 
 
exactly, I don't think a bot would be able to pick the right one unless you use alts with the name of the shapes {Tongue Out}


Again, not hard for a bot to figure out. {Wink}

For fairly small sites, these things would be alright, because bot writers wouldn't bother changing their bots around for it; but for a forum system, bot writers would want to get through, so that they could spam up the site, lowering it's reputation. It would take a bot writer probably 5 minutes to make the bot read the colour. {Wink}


Question. Is it possible to make one without using audio that would be unsolvable by bots? Can't the bot writers keep modifying their scripts to conform with the activation code? I know the one on Proboards doesn't work. I always see those reply's with like 1,000 links in it.

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Marc (cr0w) on 2nd Jan 08 at 2:13am
 
 
 
exactly, I don't think a bot would be able to pick the right one unless you use alts with the name of the shapes {Tongue Out}


Again, not hard for a bot to figure out. {Wink}

For fairly small sites, these things would be alright, because bot writers wouldn't bother changing their bots around for it; but for a forum system, bot writers would want to get through, so that they could spam up the site, lowering it's reputation. It would take a bot writer probably 5 minutes to make the bot read the colour. {Wink}


Question. Is it possible to make one without using audio that would be unsolvable by bots? Can't the bot writers keep modifying their scripts to conform with the activation code? I know the one on Proboards doesn't work. I always see those reply's with like 1,000 links in it.


Unsolvable, no. Difficult to solve, yes.

For now, Captcha images really are the best. Maybe in the future, though, we'll all just have little Retinal scanners on our computers. {Wink}

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Ross (admin) on 2nd Jan 08 at 10:01am
As far as I can see, it's only not working for URLs with the www. portion in them. On the standard domain it loads and is read fine.

As for issues with reading it, there should be no 2 letters/numbers which look alike. For example, l, i and 1 aren't included because they can all look similar, same with o and 0. The valid options are:

23456789abcdefghmnpqrstuvwxyz

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Nick (nickb) on 2nd Jan 08 at 2:39pm
I have a guest that tried to join but cant, thats 3 people now that I had to register myself, in order for them to join my forum. There should be an easier way to do this. Make them bigger, and a bit easier to read/see.

Darkmage

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Ross (admin) on 2nd Jan 08 at 2:46pm
The image doesn't seem to show up that well on dark backgrounds. I will look at ways to implement an alternative audio check and maybe sort out the issue on dark backgrounds.

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Michael (wrighty) on 2nd Jan 08 at 2:47pm
Ross could it be temporarily removed - and a much easier alternative added?

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Nick (nickb) on 2nd Jan 08 at 3:00pm
 
The image doesn't seem to show up that well on dark backgrounds. I will look at ways to implement an alternative audio check and maybe sort out the issue on dark backgrounds.


Well I can see it just fine, and I use FF2, it seems to be opera, as I said before in a pm, and now AOL, but for the third person I am not sure, as they posted in the cbox on my forum.

Re: Confirmation Code - Posted By Ross (admin) on 2nd Jan 08 at 3:05pm
 
Ross could it be temporarily removed - and a much easier alternative added?


The issue with dark backgrounds is now resolved making it much easier to read.