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Hosts - Posted By Paddy (artemis) on 18th Feb 08 at 10:47pm
I use DreamHost, but it's a really quite inflexible host when it comes to programming. I can use PHP5, but little PEAR or PECL support. I can use MySQL. I can do custom installations of PHP, to allow PEAR and PECL support, but it requires jumping through hoops. I can install Ruby on Rails, but it's *really* slow.

What do you guys use for hosting, and how good about programming are they?

~Artemis

Re: Hosts - Posted By Michael (wrighty) on 18th Feb 08 at 11:11pm
surpasshosting.com -> if you're quick $1 for their lowest (whch is still awesome!) shared hosting package.. take a look {Smile}

Re: Hosts - Posted By Paddy (artemis) on 18th Feb 08 at 11:32pm
 
surpasshosting.com -> if you're quick $1 for their lowest (whch is still awesome!) shared hosting package.. take a look {Smile}


It says I'll owe $60 next year...

~Artemis

Re: Hosts - Posted By Graham (amusedtodeath) on 18th Feb 08 at 11:35pm
 
I use DreamHost, but it's a really quite inflexible host when it comes to programming. I can use PHP5, but little PEAR or PECL support. I can use MySQL. I can do custom installations of PHP, to allow PEAR and PECL support, but it requires jumping through hoops. I can install Ruby on Rails, but it's *really* slow.

What do you guys use for hosting, and how good about programming are they?

~Artemis


I use Dreamhost too, and i do agree about the programming side of it, but it's good value and the support is pretty good too. {Smile}

Re: Hosts - Posted By Michael (wrighty) on 18th Feb 08 at 11:37pm
 
 
surpasshosting.com -> if you're quick $1 for their lowest (whch is still awesome!) shared hosting package.. take a look {Smile}


It says I'll owe $60 next year...

~Artemis


That's still very good value!

Re: Hosts - Posted By Dylan (dylan) on 19th Feb 08 at 12:26am
I own my own VDS so I just set it up for w.e I need. I have my VDS through virpus.com , it's a pretty good host but they get ddos attacks alot.

Re: Hosts - Posted By Marc (cr0w) on 19th Feb 08 at 1:03am
I use UnlimitedMB; they're a bit too strict though, thus deterring me from some big plans I had ideas for, so I do plan on switching hosts in the near future.

However, they do have some very good prices for their plans. {Smile}

Re: Hosts - Posted By Paddy (artemis) on 19th Feb 08 at 2:29am
Graham: Yeah, if I ever got a dedicated server, it'd probably be with them, because they've been so good with my shared...

Wrighty: True, I just don't like it when people lie to me from the get-go.

Dylan: At $50/month, I'd rather be able to access my host, thanks. xD

Marc: Strict how?

~Artemis

Re: Hosts - Posted By Jake (jake) on 19th Feb 08 at 3:23am
Hostzor.net

>.< My host =] I obviously use it. xD I'll give free hosting if anyone needs to test scripts, gfx, etc.

Re: Hosts - Posted By Marc (cr0w) on 19th Feb 08 at 3:35am
 
Graham: Yeah, if I ever got a dedicated server, it'd probably be with them, because they've been so good with my shared...

Wrighty: True, I just don't like it when people lie to me from the get-go.

Dylan: At $50/month, I'd rather be able to access my host, thanks. xD

Marc: Strict how?

~Artemis


For example, they don't allow Cron jobs, no scripts that auto-update, until not too long ago they didn't allow htaccess, etc.

Re: Hosts - Posted By Paddy (artemis) on 19th Feb 08 at 4:52am
 
 
Graham: Yeah, if I ever got a dedicated server, it'd probably be with them, because they've been so good with my shared...

Wrighty: True, I just don't like it when people lie to me from the get-go.

Dylan: At $50/month, I'd rather be able to access my host, thanks. xD

Marc: Strict how?

~Artemis


For example, they don't allow Cron jobs, no scripts that auto-update, until not too long ago they didn't allow htaccess, etc.


Yeah, okay, not all about that... xD

~Artemis

Re: Hosts - Posted By Dylan (dylan) on 19th Feb 08 at 5:46am
 
Graham: Yeah, if I ever got a dedicated server, it'd probably be with them, because they've been so good with my shared...

Wrighty: True, I just don't like it when people lie to me from the get-go.

Dylan: At $50/month, I'd rather be able to access my host, thanks. xD

Marc: Strict how?

~Artemis


Well I only pay $32 a month for a really good deal, I got a discount and double disk, bandwith, and ram and the uptime has only improved since i've been there. They got a new firewall and some other things and it's less and less it happens. There a good company who just seems to have one person that is intent to bring them down.

Re: Hosts - Posted By Michael (wrighty) on 19th Feb 08 at 7:45am
@Arty: It's a special offer... for valentines day, not at all a con.

Re: Hosts - Posted By Simie (Simie) on 19th Feb 08 at 5:31pm
I use surpass hosting, I got the $1 deal last year. They've given me the same support they give full paying customers, and I'm very satisfied with it {Smile}

You even get to edit your own php.ini files.

Re: Hosts - Posted By Paddy (artemis) on 19th Feb 08 at 6:40pm
Perhaps I misunderstood the invoice then. *shrug*

They don't really support changing the base webroot folder though, do they?

~Artemis

Re: Hosts - Posted By I Anoop I (anoop) on 20th Feb 08 at 10:32pm
I use MaiHost, which is pretty good. Not enough space for me but if you want the other features, its pretty nice.

Re: Hosts - Posted By ajay (ajay) on 20th Feb 08 at 10:57pm
Yea, Maihost looks very cheap for hosting you should check it out.

Re: Hosts - Posted By Simie (Simie) on 22nd Feb 08 at 5:38pm
 
Perhaps I misunderstood the invoice then. *shrug*

They don't really support changing the base webroot folder though, do they?

~Artemis


After one year, normal prices resume.

You mean say, /home/user/

Stuff in that folder? Yes, they do.

Not the /home/ folder tho. {Smile}

Re: Hosts - Posted By Paddy (artemis) on 22nd Feb 08 at 5:48pm
Simie:

but I can't do /home/user/website1 as http://www.website1.com and then /home/user/website2 as http://website2.website1.com, if I wanted to..

Or even /home/user/cake/app/webroot as http://www.website1.com

~Artemis

Re: Hosts - Posted By Dylan (dylan) on 22nd Feb 08 at 9:44pm
 
Simie:

but I can't do /home/user/website1 as http://www.website1.com and then /home/user/website2 as http://website2.website1.com, if I wanted to..

Or even /home/user/cake/app/webroot as http://www.website1.com

~Artemis


Is there some sort of advantage to that? You could just ask the host to do It I know if one of my clients asked me to change there web root for a specific domain I could do it.

Re: Hosts - Posted By Simie (Simie) on 22nd Feb 08 at 10:33pm
 
Simie:

but I can't do /home/user/website1 as http://www.website1.com and then /home/user/website2 as http://website2.website1.com, if I wanted to..

Or even /home/user/cake/app/webroot as http://www.website1.com

~Artemis


As Dylan said, is there any advantage to that?

I would expect them to allow that if you contacted them. I find their support system to be very quick and helpful. (They open ports for me in the firewall very often, which is nice of them {Tongue Out} )

Re: Hosts - Posted By Michael (wrighty) on 22nd Feb 08 at 11:31pm
 
 
Simie:

but I can't do /home/user/website1 as http://www.website1.com and then /home/user/website2 as http://website2.website1.com, if I wanted to..

Or even /home/user/cake/app/webroot as http://www.website1.com

~Artemis


As Dylan said, is there any advantage to that?

I would expect them to allow that if you contacted them. I find their support system to be very quick and helpful. (They open ports for me in the firewall very often, which is nice of them {Tongue Out} )


I actually think it IS possible...

Re: Hosts - Posted By Simie (Simie) on 23rd Feb 08 at 11:15am
 
 
 
Simie:

but I can't do /home/user/website1 as http://www.website1.com and then /home/user/website2 as http://website2.website1.com, if I wanted to..

Or even /home/user/cake/app/webroot as http://www.website1.com

~Artemis


As Dylan said, is there any advantage to that?

I would expect them to allow that if you contacted them. I find their support system to be very quick and helpful. (They open ports for me in the firewall very often, which is nice of them {Tongue Out} )


I actually think it IS possible...


"I would expect them to allow that if you contacted them."

I never said it wasn't =/

Re: Hosts - Posted By Michael (wrighty) on 23rd Feb 08 at 12:14pm
Without contacting them I meant! {Tongue Out}

Re: Hosts - Posted By Simie (Simie) on 23rd Feb 08 at 10:34pm
I don't see how, unless you found some way using some obscure Apache settings {Tongue Out} (Maybe .htaccess...?)

*googles*

Re: Hosts - Posted By Paddy (artemis) on 24th Feb 08 at 3:42am
...

Nonetheless, it's not readily available- takes a special request.

It's handy, by the way, for having more than one domain per user account, and if you use a development framework like Cake, which needs your webroot to be $CAKE_INSTALL_DIR/app/webroot (it isn't majorly an issue if $CAKE_INSTALL_DIR actually ends up being the webroot, but I've always considered that sloppy.)

~Artemis

Re: Hosts - Posted By Marc (cr0w) on 24th Feb 08 at 3:47am
I'm pretty sure that no host will let you do that on your own, as Apache is not configured for it. I doubt that any host just happens to have it setup so that any user can edit webroot settings; as that's insecure. {Unsure}

Re: Hosts - Posted By Paddy (artemis) on 24th Feb 08 at 5:13am
... Dreamhost lets me do it. ^_^

I enter the (sub)domain I want, the user account I want it to be hosted under, and the folder I would like to have available from the root path, and it sets it up that way for me.

~Artemis

Re: Hosts - Posted By Dylan (dylan) on 24th Feb 08 at 5:44am
Do you have reseller privileges?

Re: Hosts - Posted By Paddy (artemis) on 24th Feb 08 at 5:58am
Nope. This is the lowest, cheapest available shared hosting package.

~Artemis

Re: Hosts - Posted By Jason (frufru) on 24th Feb 08 at 9:28pm
 
Simie:

but I can't do /home/user/website1 as http://www.website1.com and then /home/user/website2 as http://website2.website1.com, if I wanted to..

Or even /home/user/cake/app/webroot as http://www.website1.com

~Artemis


1and1.com allows you to do that. You can point any domain or subdomain to any folder in your webspace. In my opinion 1and1 it is an excellent host, but the only thing that annoys me is the "Service Unavailable" messages that come up occasionally. Though that could be just my particular package and/or server...

Re: Hosts - Posted By Dylan (dylan) on 24th Feb 08 at 11:42pm
Ahh I remember something now, I think I know why your guys host's let you do this, I was talking to a hostgator admin and he said (if your using cPanel ) you can't change the webroot because of the way cPanel is coded.

Re: Hosts - Posted By dog199200 (dog199200) on 27th Feb 08 at 3:47am
heres a host i found and its very cheap and like the best ever!

http://www.servage.net/